<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Morethodoxy: Exploring the Breadth, Depth and Passion of Orthodox Judaism &#187; maharat</title>
	<atom:link href="http://morethodoxy.org/tag/maharat/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://morethodoxy.org</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:46:59 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
<cloud domain='morethodoxy.org' port='80' path='/?rsscloud=notify' registerProcedure='' protocol='http-post' />
<image>
		<url>http://s2.wp.com/i/buttonw-com.png</url>
		<title>Morethodoxy: Exploring the Breadth, Depth and Passion of Orthodox Judaism &#187; maharat</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org</link>
	</image>
	<atom:link rel="search" type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" href="http://morethodoxy.org/osd.xml" title="Morethodoxy: Exploring the Breadth, Depth and Passion of Orthodox Judaism" />
	<atom:link rel='hub' href='http://morethodoxy.org/?pushpress=hub'/>
		<item>
		<title>Rabbi Lopatin clarifies his respect for Rav Shai Held</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2010/05/07/rabbi-lopatin-clarifies-his-respect-for-rav-shai-held/</link>
		<comments>http://morethodoxy.org/2010/05/07/rabbi-lopatin-clarifies-his-respect-for-rav-shai-held/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 02:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Asher Lopatin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Jewish Thought]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[clergy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Conservative]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[litergy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[maharat]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Orthodox]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[rabbis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Schachter]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Shai Held]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[siddur]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Women]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[yoatzot]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://morethodoxy.org/?p=533</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Friends, As an addendum for more comments regarding Rav Schachter’s shiur at the RCA, I wanted to clarify a few things: 1)      I have tremendous respect and admiration for Rabbi Shai Held who wrote the critique of Rav Schacter, at least in terms of “chidush”.  Rabbi Held is a talmid chacham and already an accomplished [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=morethodoxy.org&#038;blog=7825608&#038;post=533&#038;subd=morethodoxjudaism&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends,</p>
<p>As an addendum for more comments regarding Rav Schachter’s shiur at the RCA, I wanted to clarify a few things:</p>
<p>1)      I have tremendous respect and admiration for Rabbi Shai Held who wrote the critique of Rav Schacter, at least in terms of “chidush”.  Rabbi Held is a talmid chacham and already an accomplished Jewish thinker and liturgist.  I have used his liturgy on the Tsunami disaster in my shul!  So any rejoinder I have to his critique is said timidly and humbly.  I apologize that I may not have come off sounding this way in my zeal to defend the “chidush” nature of Orthodoxy.  I look forward to continuing discussions and debates with Rav Held in the future.</p>
<p>2)      Rav Schachter himself, in this same shiur at the RCA conference, allowed for disagreement with his points.  Rav Schechter emphasized how any halachic authority could disagree with another halachic authority, from an earlier time or contemporary, and therefore, I felt exhilarated after his speech as it legitimized my decision to  follow halachic authorities – in the Orthodox world &#8211;  who disagree with his stance on the ordination of women to the rabbinate.  Every posek (halachic decisor) must rule what his or her understanding, and every individual must honestly chose which decisor they follow: there will be disagreements, but no one is bound by anyone else’s truth.  If the Gaon from Vilna could disagree with the Gaonim 1000 years before his time, we can certainly feel OK in ruling according to a contemporary posek – or poskim &#8211; who disagrees with Rav Schachter.</p>
<p>3)      Thus, I do not think that there is any halachic prohibition on ordaining women as rabbis, and while the time may not be right in Orthodoxy at the moment for this practice, I look forward to the time when it will be appropriate.  In the meantime, within Orthodoxy, I hope to see more and more shuls with full time women in the clergy, and I hope there Yeshivat Maharat, and the programs which confer other titles to women, such as Yoatzot Halacha, will continue to grow and thrive.  I hope that Orthodox leaders step up to the plate to fund those programs and those positions.</p>
<p>Rabbi Asher Lopatin</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/533/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=morethodoxy.org&#038;blog=7825608&#038;post=533&#038;subd=morethodoxjudaism&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://morethodoxy.org/2010/05/07/rabbi-lopatin-clarifies-his-respect-for-rav-shai-held/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/19fd9ec1d51b75a56bae0f1e31fa6e78?s=96&#38;d=http%3A%2F%2Fs0.wp.com%2Fi%2Fmu.gif&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">Asher Lopatin</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
		<item>
		<title>Maha &#8211; right</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/06/03/maha-right/</link>
		<comments>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/06/03/maha-right/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Yosef  Kanefsky</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Contemporary Issues]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Halacha (Jewish Law)]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[avi weiss]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[maharat]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ordination]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/?p=37</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Los Angeles is a continent away from Sara Hurwitz’ controversial ordination as MaHaRaT by Rabbi Avi Weiss. As a result, almost no one here in the West seems to yet know or care. Perhaps the only advantage of living in this parallel Modern Orthodox universe is that it affords one the possibility of viewing this [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=morethodoxy.org&#038;blog=7825608&#038;post=37&#038;subd=morethodoxjudaism&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Los Angeles is a continent away from Sara Hurwitz’ controversial ordination as MaHaRaT by Rabbi Avi Weiss. As a result, almost no one here in the West seems to yet know or care. Perhaps the only advantage of living in this parallel Modern Orthodox universe is that it affords one the possibility of viewing this event, along with the discussions it has generated from, well, a distance. And from a distance, it appears to me that much of the discussion that this event has generated &#8211; discussion about the propriety of ordaining women &#8211; is actually missing the mark. I see Sara Hurwitz’ quasi-<em>semicha</em> as indeed sparking several important discussions, but none of them about women and ordination  per se.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Chief among the discussions that seems to largely <em>miss</em> the point, is the “halachik discussion”, i.e. the discussion as to whether there is a halachik barrier to a woman serving as a rabbi. To folks who have served in the congregational rabbinate, the question seems almost nonsensical. I have been blessed to serve as a congregational rabbi for the last 19 years.  The sections of  Shulchan Aruch that have governed my work are entirely egalitarian. The laws of visiting the sick and of comforting the mourner, the laws of rebuking people without publicly embarrassing them, and the laws of tzedaka and proper treatment of synagogue employees are not gender-sensitive. The Torah that God has merited me to teach has been drawn exclusively from texts that Modern Orthodox Jews believe are open to everyone regardless of gender. Ninety percent of the answers that I have given to questions of practical halacha have come straight out of the standard halachik literature, and the other ten percent  &#8211; questions that I felt truly needed adjudication -  I submitted to people who are formally authorized to render decisions. The laws of Helping Jews Work Together On Committees are not halachikly codified at all. The question as to whether a woman may be appointed to a position of <em>srara </em>(of authority over a community) has been effectively addressed through the halachik recognition that any leader who is freely elected by (and can be fired by) a community, and whose authority is shared with lay-leadership, is not in fact exercising <em>srara</em>.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>What are the important discussions that ought be raised by Sara Hurwitz’ ordination? I’d propose there are three:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>(1)   <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Are we as committed as we should be to having the best leaders that we can have?</span></p>
<p>The American Orthodox community, now as always, is in need of creative, visionary, dedicated rabbinic leadership. (The looming day school crisis underscores this need well.)  Arguably, we have been facing our challenges in recent years with much of one hand tied behind our backs, as half of our population (the female half) has not been encouraged or been given the necessary training to provide the sort of  broadly-impacting religious leadership that is invested in the rabbinate. The discussion we ought be having is not about “can women be rabbis?”, rather “are we serious about having the best possible religious leadership?”  Assuming that we are, I propose that we ought be opening the rabbinate to women <strong>not to address feminist concerns, but in order to have the best chance at producing the rabbinic leaders that we need. </strong> This isn’t a “women’s issue”. It’s a leadership training issue.</p>
<p>           </p>
<p>(2)   <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Are we prepared to correct a fundamental illogic in our approach to Talmud Torah?</span></p>
<p>Opening the Orthodox rabbinate to women is also about fixing a glaring inconsistency in our educational philosophy. We are today ideologically committed to the proposition that Talmud Torah is an equal-opportunity value, and that all Jewish people should pursue the study of whatever area of Torah they desire. This obviously includes the kind of intensive study of practical halacha that characterizes a <em>semicha </em>curriculum. We already confer degrees on men or women who have completed courses of study in TaNaCH, Jewish philosophy, or even Talmud. But for reasons more social/political than logical or fair we won’t do so for Jews who have completed the requisite study of practical halacha, when those Jews lack a “y” chromosome. This arbitrary discriminatory practice reflects poorly on us, and for the sake of our communal integrity and the uprightness of our educational system needs to be addressees one way or another.  </p>
<p> </p>
<p>(3)   <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Recognizing Sara Hurwitz’ ordination not as a revolution but as a challenge</span></p>
<p>A third meaningful discussion that we ought to have is about the twin realities that over the last decades we have created a community in which Orthodox women have become more deeply educated, have taken some leadership roles in educational and communal settings (and for that matter in rabbinic settings as well in several instances though usually without a title), <span style="text-decoration:underline;">and that our community has changed for the better as a result. </span>Our schools have become infinitely more creative, our homes are religiously much deeper, and our communal stands against sexual abuse and recalcitrant husbands more robust. And these are but a few of the positive changes that have resulted. MaHaRaT Hurwitz’ ordination should not be characterized as – and in fact isn’t! &#8211;  a challenge to our traditional ways. It is rather a challenge to us to keep striving for new and better ways to make our community better, wiser, and holier through opening opportunities for all Jews, men and women alike.</p>
<br />  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gocomments/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/comments/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godelicious/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/delicious/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gofacebook/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/facebook/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gotwitter/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/twitter/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/gostumble/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/stumble/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/godigg/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/digg/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/" /></a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/goreddit/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/"><img alt="" border="0" src="http://feeds.wordpress.com/1.0/reddit/morethodoxjudaism.wordpress.com/37/" /></a> <img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=morethodoxy.org&#038;blog=7825608&#038;post=37&#038;subd=morethodoxjudaism&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/06/03/maha-right/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>6</slash:comments>
	
		<media:content url="http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/28c4f6e0b032c8c9467085961517d560?s=96&#38;d=http%3A%2F%2Fs0.wp.com%2Fi%2Fmu.gif&#38;r=G" medium="image">
			<media:title type="html">ravyosef</media:title>
		</media:content>
	</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
