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		<title>By: Aapii.org » Blog Archive &#187; Jewish News</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-988</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chana</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-941</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Makovi</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Makovi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anon, 

As far as I&#039;m concerned, the Haredim have split themselves off from the Jewish people and formed a new religion.

Rabbi Ben Zion Meir Hai Uziel long ago, during the British Mandate period, ruled that women may be rabbis, based on Tosafot, Sefer ha-Hinukh, Ritva, and the Hida. Pretty solid basis, don&#039;t you think? But the Orthodox today are still debating the issue!

So I&#039;m not talking about the &quot;the small portion of Left Wing Something Orthodoxy that likes egalitarianism&quot;. I&#039;m talking about Jews who still keep traditional Judaism, be it Sephardic or German Neo-Orthodox. (Breuer&#039;s today is not German Neo-Orthodox in weltanschauung, and the Haredi Sephardim are not Sephardi in hashqafa. I&#039;m talking about people who still keep authentic Sephardic and German traditions.) Look at the writings of Rabbi Haim David Halevy, one the greatest rabbis of recent years, and perhaps THE preeminent Sephardi rabbi of the whole world. Read his writings, and tell me whether you think he&#039;s more similar to Modern Orthodoxy or the Haredism. Let me give you one example of one of his rulings: he said it is permissible to study secular studies on Shabbat in preparation for an exam, because the secular studies are intrinsically beneficial in and of themselves, and so studying them for an exam is NOT hakhana. Remember, Rabbi Halevy was a traditional Judeo-Spanish Sephardi who learned in Porat Yosef and never went to university.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, </p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, the Haredim have split themselves off from the Jewish people and formed a new religion.</p>
<p>Rabbi Ben Zion Meir Hai Uziel long ago, during the British Mandate period, ruled that women may be rabbis, based on Tosafot, Sefer ha-Hinukh, Ritva, and the Hida. Pretty solid basis, don&#8217;t you think? But the Orthodox today are still debating the issue!</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not talking about the &#8220;the small portion of Left Wing Something Orthodoxy that likes egalitarianism&#8221;. I&#8217;m talking about Jews who still keep traditional Judaism, be it Sephardic or German Neo-Orthodox. (Breuer&#8217;s today is not German Neo-Orthodox in weltanschauung, and the Haredi Sephardim are not Sephardi in hashqafa. I&#8217;m talking about people who still keep authentic Sephardic and German traditions.) Look at the writings of Rabbi Haim David Halevy, one the greatest rabbis of recent years, and perhaps THE preeminent Sephardi rabbi of the whole world. Read his writings, and tell me whether you think he&#8217;s more similar to Modern Orthodoxy or the Haredism. Let me give you one example of one of his rulings: he said it is permissible to study secular studies on Shabbat in preparation for an exam, because the secular studies are intrinsically beneficial in and of themselves, and so studying them for an exam is NOT hakhana. Remember, Rabbi Halevy was a traditional Judeo-Spanish Sephardi who learned in Porat Yosef and never went to university.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If by &quot;ourselves&quot; you mean &quot;the small portion of Left Wing Something Orthodoxy that likes egalitarianism,&quot; then I guess you&#039;re right. Me, I include a lot more people in &quot;ourselves,&quot; and I&#039;d rather recognize and leave un-alienated the many shades of gray that exist between the Haredim (not really even applicable in America to a large extent) and the Something Orthodox. In fact, I&#039;d rather get them to go along with things and recognize the Women&#039;s decisions. But that will NEVER happen like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8220;ourselves&#8221; you mean &#8220;the small portion of Left Wing Something Orthodoxy that likes egalitarianism,&#8221; then I guess you&#8217;re right. Me, I include a lot more people in &#8220;ourselves,&#8221; and I&#8217;d rather recognize and leave un-alienated the many shades of gray that exist between the Haredim (not really even applicable in America to a large extent) and the Something Orthodox. In fact, I&#8217;d rather get them to go along with things and recognize the Women&#8217;s decisions. But that will NEVER happen like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Makovi</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Makovi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make a difference for who?

For ourselves, we know we&#039;re right, so let&#039;s make women posqim already!

As for the Haredim, they&#039;ve already disconnected themselves from the Jewish people and Orthodox Judaism, and formed their own new religion, so who cares what they think? If they want to hear the truth, great, but if not, let them rot in their ignorance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make a difference for who?</p>
<p>For ourselves, we know we&#8217;re right, so let&#8217;s make women posqim already!</p>
<p>As for the Haredim, they&#8217;ve already disconnected themselves from the Jewish people and Orthodox Judaism, and formed their own new religion, so who cares what they think? If they want to hear the truth, great, but if not, let them rot in their ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: BloggersBase Spirituality and Faith</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BloggersBase Spirituality and Faith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Rabbah...&lt;/strong&gt;

I stumbled upon the “Morethodoxy” site run by a couple of my good friends, Rabbi Barry Gelman and Rabbi Asher Lopatin, and noticed that a co-writer of theirs, Sarah Hurwitz, had given herself the......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rabbah&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I stumbled upon the “Morethodoxy” site run by a couple of my good friends, Rabbi Barry Gelman and Rabbi Asher Lopatin, and noticed that a co-writer of theirs, Sarah Hurwitz, had given herself the&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roalnd T</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roalnd T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is funny how you use the word orthodox in this article seven times.  Despite what Goebbels said, lehavdil, saying it over and over doesn&#039;t make it so.
Orthodox women rabbi is an oxymoron.   It doesn&#039;t go together.  Rabbi Kanefsky has an article on the web page about bar mitzvah kids in his community.  He decided that certain things that are not orthodox are.  Then he taught them for 14 years in his shul and school and now says &quot;golly, see that, centrist orthodox youth believe such and such.  That is what modern orthodoxy is&quot;  Just because you said it and tricked these innocent youth into believing it does not make it so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny how you use the word orthodox in this article seven times.  Despite what Goebbels said, lehavdil, saying it over and over doesn&#8217;t make it so.<br />
Orthodox women rabbi is an oxymoron.   It doesn&#8217;t go together.  Rabbi Kanefsky has an article on the web page about bar mitzvah kids in his community.  He decided that certain things that are not orthodox are.  Then he taught them for 14 years in his shul and school and now says &#8220;golly, see that, centrist orthodox youth believe such and such.  That is what modern orthodoxy is&#8221;  Just because you said it and tricked these innocent youth into believing it does not make it so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewish News</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jewish News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Rabba Sara Hurwitz&quot;

Why the change in title?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rabba Sara Hurwitz&#8221;</p>
<p>Why the change in title?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/31/yeshivat-maharat-facts-on-the-ground/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a huge mistake. If you wanted to have a lasting impact of any sort and actually make a difference, you know, actually make it possible for women to become Orthodox poskim, you&#039;ve squandered that opportunity. The most this will accomplish is create a war between the Yeshivish crowd (that includes many to the left of the Haredim) and those edging towards &quot;Open Orthodoxy.&quot; While I 100% believe that women should be allowed to pasken, I will not support yet another war within the Jewish community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a huge mistake. If you wanted to have a lasting impact of any sort and actually make a difference, you know, actually make it possible for women to become Orthodox poskim, you&#8217;ve squandered that opportunity. The most this will accomplish is create a war between the Yeshivish crowd (that includes many to the left of the Haredim) and those edging towards &#8220;Open Orthodoxy.&#8221; While I 100% believe that women should be allowed to pasken, I will not support yet another war within the Jewish community.</p>
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