Comments on: Women of the Wall respond http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/ Fri, 18 May 2012 14:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Yossi http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-854 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:05:20 +0000 http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-854 “I understand that the circumstances surrounding Nofrat Frenkel’s arrest in complicated. However, that does not change the fact that women should have the right to daven peacefully at the holiest site in the world”.

Complicated is an understatement- She’s in it for the attention, and by feeding you are becoming part of the problem.

You imply that they do not have that right to pray, which is simply dishonest. They may do so easily, as long as they obey the mores of the place, in the same way that all men are asked to wear a kipa.

Would you assert the right to have an Anabaptist service at St. Peters? Why empower those who are seeking only attention? If they want to really pray, they have many options: They can do so quietly there, they have the right to daven with talis and tfilin at the other part of the kotel, and they have many synagogues that allow this. Their attempt here could have no other motive than to hijack media attention. If their actual intent was Jewish spirituality, cauing Chilul Hashem would play a role in the deciusion to make an issue of this.

]]> By: Gedalia Walls http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-851 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:10:04 +0000 http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-851 I challenge the author with one very serious flaw in this argument: if the WOW women had their rights violated, then what would stop some Messianic or fringe “Jewish” group to arrive and practice their own “traditional” forms of worship? Calling the WOW group “halachik” does not prevent some other group from taking sides with the French rabbis in the Ramban’s letter who (can we imagine)take issue with Rambam about whether HaShem can take on corporeal forms? Where does this slippery slope of “halakhic material” end? When we run out of variant source material to quote?

]]> By: Akiva http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-838 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:23:08 +0000 http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-838 Honestly I wouldn’t have a problem with “WOW” if not for the reality that most of their activities are blatant provocation.

]]> By: Lisa http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-834 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:15:21 +0000 http://morethodoxy.org/2009/12/10/women-of-the-wall-respond/#comment-834 Pushing to create “facts on the ground” as Ms. Frenkel was attempting to do has been the strategy of the Women at the Wall since they started.

http://lamrot-hakol.blogspot.com/2009/03/appropriate-pluralism.html

Please read the above and ask yourself whether you’re really working for a respectful solution or just demanding that you get your way at the expense of others.

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