Comments on: Hooray! I Have Found A Home in the Israeli Political World! by Rabbi Asher Lopatin

By: Asher Lopatin

Asher Lopatin — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:30:14 +0000

Not sure I agree with you. I think I was serious…

Shalom and best wishes,

Rabbi Asher Lopatin

By: kalonymos

kalonymos — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:33:48 +0000

People aren’t getting that you are making fun of the idea of choosing a party on the basis of what it’s founders believed instead of what the movement stands for today. As if somebody would choose to be a Republican today because of Lincoln’s speeches.

By: Shachar haamim

Shachar haamim — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:06:52 +0000

I’m glad to see that you understand that Aliyah of JEWS is an important way to ensure Israel’s future as a the Home of the Jewish People (and IMHO also as a Jewish State as the former can’t exist without the latter – been tried and done and failed…see under British Mandate)

However I have to agree with Joe – you distort Jabotinsky. As I posted a link in an earlier comment http://www.zeevgalili.com/?p=286 I will post the quote from Jabotinsky in that article by Ze’ev Gailili. Jabo most certainly chaged his attitude about Arabs. He also changed his attitude about the role of religion in the Jewish State and by the mid-1930′s after he formed the NZO he was much closer to tradition and had a more positive view of the role of religion in the State.

” על הסכם מרצון בינינו לבין ערביי ארץ-ישראל אי אפשר לחלום. לא עתה וגם לא בעתיד הנראה באופק… אין תקווה – תהיה הקלושה ביותר – להשיג את הסכמתם של ערביי ארץ יראל להפיכתה של פלשתינה לארץ בעלת רוב יהודי”

By: Joe Schick

Joe Schick — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:31:49 +0000

Whatever the desscription, in substance what you are advocating was completely rejected by Jabotinsky.

By: Asher Lopatin

Asher Lopatin — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:36:02 +0000

Stop with the Binational State! I’m not using that language. It is one country just like the U.S. is one country and Canada is one country. Who says the Holy Land will only consist of Jews and Arabs – maybe we’ll have a million Filipinos or Africans. But for now, Jews are currently a majority in the Holy Land, between the Jordan and the Mediterranean sea. Let’s get a good constitution, like the U.S.’s, separate church and state, give everyone the vote, support the army to rid every square inch of territory of terrorism and sedition and get on with the business of being the Home of the Jewish People. I also urge all those who don’t like my idea to make Aliya!! That’s the best way of addressing the demographic problem, besides educating Arab women and giving them professional jobs.

RAL

By: Joe Schick

Joe Schick — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:29:43 +0000

This post is completely off- base; Jabotinsky expressly opposed the idea of a bi-national state. (I will be happy to e-mail a PDF on his 1930 article on the subject.)

The idea thing your one state idea will achieve is to allow anti-Zionists to say that an Orthodox rabbi agrees that Israel should not be an independent state.